TROUBLE
SHOOTING of BS III vehicle:
The repair
of BS III vehicles is too difficult for a normal mechanic and will tired, to
find out the defect of the vehicle. The BS III vehicle’s
mechanic should be an electromech,
and he must have a better knowledge of electrician. Some technical tips
received from TATA motor regarding repair of BS III vehicles are as under, and
I hope it will helpful to all workshop as well as technical persons those who
are in the field.
CHECK
ENGINE lamp blinks, Engine stops – Check diesel in tank, rectify air lock if
any. Also check electrical fuses and replace with correct rating Fuse only. If
complaint still remains, immediately report to Dealer/TASS.
CHECK
ENGINE lamp blinks, Engine does not stop – Take the vehicle to the nearest
workshop.
CHECK
ENGINE lamp blinks, Limp-home mode- Vehicle can be driven at slow speed to
nearest workshop.
CHECK
ENGINE lamp does not blink, Engine stops – Check mechanical causes for diagnosis
& report to Dealer/TASS
CHECK
ENGINE lamp remains ON continuously – No fault on BS III
engine. Take vehicle to the workshop.
Diagnosis
for ENGINE COMPLAINTS
1)
engine cranks, but does not start:
A.
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Check for
mechanical causes:
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i
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Fuel
System: Clogged filters, strainers, electrical feed pump, air lock.
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ii
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Diesel
quality: drain water separator.
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iii
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FIP:
timing, calibration.
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B.
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“CHECK
ENGINE” lamp: For a healthy vehicle, as soon as the ignition is ON, the
check lamp on instrument cluster should glow for a few seconds and then go
OFF after initialization of ECU.
However if
the check engine lamp continuous to
blink when the ignition key is in ON position, there is an error in EDC
system. Connect the diagnostic tester and read errors in the ECU. Rectify
errors as per instructions in diagnostic tester and probable causes given
below.
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a)
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Connectors
of wiring harness:
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i Check wiring harness connectors to
sensors and actuators.
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ii Fly wheel housing: Engine speed sensor.
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iii FIP: HDK unit, timer device, Fuel shut
off solenoid.
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iv Injector: Needle lift sensor
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b)
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Check
ground points. Refer to circuit diagram given in Operator Service Book for
more details on location of ground points.
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c)
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Inspect
wiring harness for any damage due to fouling or burn.
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d)
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Check for
battery voltage. ECU functioning is normal within 9-14 volts for 12V battery
and18-26 volts for 24V battery. Note: Check Battery voltage at Battery
terminals, Starter motor terminals, and then ECU pin No. 4.
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C.
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Check all
Relays of ECU circuit :
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a)
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Main Relay
(Blue colour, common for 12V and 24 V system): Check polarity. If found to be
reversed, the diode in the relay will surge the coil there by preventing the
engine from starting.
If this
12V, 20A relay with diode, part no. is 2632 5420 4602, is found defective,
replace the relay.
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b)
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Check 24 V
Ignition relay – Yellow colour (for 24 V system)
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c)
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Check 12 V
Hold relay - Black colour. (for 24 V system).
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d)
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Check
continuity of Main Relay as below;-
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Check continuity between
i) Pin
3 of Main relay and pin 18 of ECU
ii)
Supply of 12 volts +ve and at pin 1 of Main Relay
Note: Chattering noise from the relay indicates
the supply is not building sufficiently for coils in relay to establish
connections.
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D.
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Fuse:
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a)
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Fuses of
correct specifications
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b)
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Bypassing
the blown off fuse by using external copper wires will seriously damage
electronic components of ECU.
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c)
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Check
supply of 12 V at Fuse and continuity between ECU fuse terminal to pin 18 ECU
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Note:
After replacing the fuse, check cause of high current flow if there is a
repeat blowing of fuse.
A sharp
pin has to be used to access the connector pins of ECU connectors as the
multimeter probes cannot be inserted.
Ensure
ignition key is OFF before removing ECU connectors.
Remove ECU
connectors by pulling the locking sleeve away from connector.
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E.
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Engine
Speed sensor: Mounted on Flywheel Housing / Clutch housing.
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a)
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Wiring
harness: Check connections to engine speed sensor on the clutch housing.
Visually inspect the wiring harness for any external damage
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b)
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Continuity
check: Ensure ignition key is OFF and battery cut off switch is OFF while
checking continuity. Multimeter range should be on mΩ. Check continuity between:
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Pin No. on
engine speed
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Pin no. on
ECU sensor
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1
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102 ECU
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2
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110 ECU
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3
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86 ECU-Shield
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c)
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Check sensor resistance 860+/- 10% W across
pin 1 and 2.
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d)
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Engine
Speed sensor gap:
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i. Maintain gap of 0.5 to 1.5 mm
between sensor and flywheel. Measure the depth at fly wheel housing speed
sensor from matching face to flywheel and then length on sensor from joining
surface of flange to sensor element. The difference between the two should be
0.5 to 1.5 mm.
ii.
Clean the transuding surface of the sensor for any greasy/oily
deposits without damaging the sensor.
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F.
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Fuel Injection Pump (FIP)
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a)
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Wiring harness to FIP: Check connections and
visually inspect the wiring harness.
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i.
HDK unit 7-pin connector.
ii.
Timer device 2-pin connector.
iii.
ELAB –Fuel shut off solenoid.
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b)
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Check supply to actuators: Use Chassis as
ground(GND). Check when ignition key is ON
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i.
HDK unit 7-pin connector supply 12 V +ve at pin no. 7
ii.
Timer device 2-pin connector supply 12 V +ve at pin no. 1
iii
ELAB –Fuel shut off solenoid supply 12 V +ve
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c)
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Continuity check:
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HDK unit 7-pin connector to ECU.
Ensure no short connections between pins 1,2,3 & 4.
HDK 7- pin connector
Pin1 – ECU pin 108
Pin 2- ECU pin 107
Pin 3 – ECU pin 106
Pin 4 – ECU pin 116
Pin 5 – ECU pin 103
Pin 6 – ECU pin 111
Pin 7 – ECU pin 2(10A fuse) (Pin nos are
engraved on the connector)
ECU side
Timer
device 2-pin connector to ECU. Also check for resistance 15W of timer
solenoid.
Pin1 – ECU pin 2(10A fuse)
Pin 2- ECU pin 114.
Continuity
of ELAB is to be tested with
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G.
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Diode: (Placed between ignition switch and DC-DC
converter, at dash board). This is applicable only for BS
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a)
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Check diode in DC DC converter circuit.
Note: Diode faults
i. Open circuit faults:
Engine will not start.
ii. Closed circuit faults: Engine can start
but will not shut down with Ignition key.
iii. Diode is getting
heated: Check 12V hold relay connection, if found wrong replace relay.
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2) Engine does not stop even after
removing the ignition keY.
A.
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Fuel
shut off solenoid not shutting down:
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a)
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Check
Blocking Diode on alternator for correct functioning, if not OK, replace.
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b)
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Check
for solenoid plunger stickiness, or malfunctioning. The plunger needs to be
replaced in case found defective.
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B.
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On
24 V system vehicles, check diode near DC DC converter for correct function
for close
circuit fault. Replace diode if found
defective.
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C.
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Check
Ignition relay and main relay for correct function. Replace if found
defective.
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3) Sluggish pick up:
A.
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Check for mechanical causes:
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a)
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Chocked air filter, loose and broken joints of air intake,
torn hoses, punctured pipes, leaky inter cooler, kinks.
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b)
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Brake
binding, wrong exhaust brake fitment, clutch slippage
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c)
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Clogged fuel filters & strainers, electrical
feed pump, air lock.
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d)
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FIP: FIP timing, calibration.
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B
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If
the CHECK ENGINE lamp blinks continuously when the ignition key is in ON
position, connect the diagnostic tester and read errors in the ECU. Rectify
errors as per diagnostic tester instructions.
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C.
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Check Boost pressure and boost air temperature
sensor:
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Check
wiring harness and connector to boost pressure for any external damage.
Check
whether the sticker on boost pressure sensor removed. If found damaged, replace
sensor
Boost
pressure value should be >1275 mbar and can be checked with diagnostics
tester.
If
boost pressure is less, check for:
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a)
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Blocked air filter
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b)
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Air intake system- restrictions and kinks of
hoses, hose clamps.
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c)
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Turbocharger function
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d)
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Intercooler – leakages and blockage of fins
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e)
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Cylinder head cover gasket and mounting.
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f)
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Boost
pressure & Air temperature sensor: do following;-
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Check Supply voltage to sensor
using multimeter. (Pins 1(ground) and 3 for 3-5 volts.)
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Check resistance values across
pin 1 and 2 for 2.5 kW. High resistance values
in MΩ indicates faulty temperature sensor.
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Continuity check: Boost pressure
sensor with ECU connector.
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Ensure
no short between pin 2 & 3 and pin 1 & 2.
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Note: Keep ignition key OFF while disconnecting sensors and
checking continuity.
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D.
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Vehicle speed sensor:
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a)
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Wiring
harness: Check connections ( 3-pin pig tail connectors) to sensor on the gear
box speedometer cable. Visually inspect the wiring harness for any external
damage
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b)
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Check
mounting of vehicle speed sensor with speedometer cable and drive pin of
sensor. (NOTE: Fuel quantity to be delivered is
reduced to 80% because of discontinuity in vehicle speed sensor connections)
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c)
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Continuity
check: (Keep
Ignition key ON)
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Pin 1 – Ground
(continuity with chassis Long Member)
Pin 2 – ECU positive
(12V with chassis as ground)
Pin 3 – ECU pin 20
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d)
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Supply to vehicle speed sensor should be
12V. Check voltage across pin 2 and pin 1
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4) Maximum fuel
quantity limitation: Check parameters values in
the diagnostic tester. The actual parameter values should be checked by running
the engine and checking for fuel delivery values. Limiting fuel quantity can be
reduced / increased by maximum of 5% to factory set value.
5) CHECK ENGINE lamp
blinking:
A.
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Blinking
of CHECK ENGINE lamp indicates presence of errors in the system. The errors
can be read using a diagnostic tester and rectified accordingly.
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b.
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Blinking
of CHECK ENGINE lamp without any errors in the system:
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a)
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Check
the circuit of diagnostic lamp. Continuity with ECU pin 80.
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b)
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Fuse:
Check vehicle speed sensor and CHECK ENGINE lamp 5A fuse.
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c)
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Check
for the correct bulb specifications (2W, not more) of the CHECK ENGINE lamp. Note: Every time the ECU is initialized by switching ON
the ignition key, the ECU checks functionality of CHECK ENGINE lamp. The lamp
should glow for a few seconds and then go OFF. During this process if excess
of current is drawn by the bulb to glow or by any load in the circuit
connected to diagnostic lamp, this will be recognized by the ECU as short
circuit.
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d)
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Supply
of 12 V at CHECK ENGINE lamp and fuse.
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e)
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Perform
actuator test to check working of CHECK ENGINE lamp.
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6) CHECK ENGINE
continuously ON:
a)
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Check
continuity of ECU pin 20 with CHECK ENGINE lamp –ve for short circuit fault.
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b)
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Check
if CHECK ENGINE negative is short with chassis ground(GND)
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7) FIP timer
chattering from timing device of FIP when ignition key
is in ON position:
When
ignition key is switched ON (engine has not started yet); FIP timer makes a
chattering noise. This noise is kept intentionally audible for ascertaining
functioning of FIP timer solenoid unit.
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8) Erratic vehicle
behavior, stops when pressing brake pedal, low
idle not stable, engine stalls during shifting to lower gear:
A.
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Check
ECU data set using diagnostic kit.
Replace ECU if incorrect.
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B.
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Check
for Errors using diagnostic tester.
( Note; of EC: Replacement ECU ordering is to be done
through TML Container number (part number U).
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9) Vehicle does not
start after shutting down on its own:
a.
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Check for mechanical causes:
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a)
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Fuel System: Clogged filters, strainers,
electrical feed pump, air lock, high pressure lines.
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b)
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Battery (low voltage).
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c)
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Starter, starter relay, alternator, etc.
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b.
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ECU
initialization: If the engine is switched off by itself, ECU switches over to
recovery state from operational state. By turning the ignition key to
complete OFF position and re-cranking the engine will enable the ECU to
switch over from recovery state to initialization state.
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c.
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Check
ECU relay, Ignition relay and Hold relay
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d.
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Check
if CHECK ENGINE is blinking. Check errors using diagnostic tester.
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e.
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ECU
conducts self tests on the fuel shutoff solenoid after 100 hrs of operation.
This test is done while the vehicle is in operation. In case if the fuel shut
off solenoid does not pass the test, the engine will shut down by aborting
any fuel supply. Error will be reported to diagnostic tester.
Note: By removing the plunger of
fuel shut off solenoid will cause the solenoid to fail the self test by ECU.
The vehicle would shut down denying
any fuel supply to engine unless the fuel shut off solenoid is made
functional.
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10) Engine shuts off
intermittently, even though diesel level is OK
a.
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Check for mechanical causes:
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Fuel System: Clogged filters, strainers,
electrical feed pump, air lock, high pressure lines.
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B.
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Check
if CHECK ENGINE is blinking. Check errors using diagnostic tester.
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a)
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Inspect
ELAB
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b)
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Check
for any plausibility errors of Engine speed sensor, NBF
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11) Engine jerky:
a.
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Check
if CHECK ENGINE is blinking. Check errors using diagnostic tester.
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b.
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Check
connections to FIP timer solenoid (2 pole connection on FIP) and / or NBF
sensor (1st injector)
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c.
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Check
continuity across Wiring Harness of Needle lift sensor (NBF). Check for
resistance value across pin1 and pin 2 of sensor for of 100W
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Pin 1 – ECU pin 109
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Pin 2 – ECU pin 101
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d.
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Check
timer solenoid. Perform actuator test using diagnostic tester.
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12) White
smoke
a.
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Check for various mechanical causes
of white smoke.
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a)
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Contaminated fuel used.
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b)
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Fuel system- chocked fuel filter,
feed pump, clogged injectors, correct size and length of high-pressure line etc.
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c)
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FIP mounting flange bolts loose
& timing disturbed.
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d)
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Coolant leaking into combustion
chamber.
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e)
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Check FIP timing and calibration.
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f)
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Contaminated fuel used.
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b.
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Check for start fuel quantity.
Ensure incremental value assigned to parameter for start quantity is set to
zero using diagnostic tester.
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c.
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Check for correct data set ID using
diagnostic tester under ‘Read ECU data’.
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d.
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Check working of timer device by
doing actuator test. On performing the actuator test on running engine, the
engine noise will change on working of timer device.
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e.
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Check for ECU errors with diagnostic
tester on Boost pressure sensor, water temperature sensor. Read the coolant
temperature as reported in parameter values of the diagnostic tester. Faulty
signals indicating low boost pressure / coolant temperature would prompt the
ECU to deliver more fuel.
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f.
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Check coolant temperature sensor
continuity. Check resistance 1.5 kW.
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Pin 1: ECU pin
112
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Pin2: ECU pin
104
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g.
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Check boost pressure sensor
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h.
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Check Accelerator pedal module
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13) Engine speed is
not increasing beyond idling
a.
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Check
for accelerator pedal module connections and mounting for external damage.
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b.
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Check
for any errors reported on Accelerator Pedal Module.
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c.
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Check
supply 5V between pins 2 & 3. Accelerator Pedal Module – (pins market 1
to 6 on the wiring harness side
connector).
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d.
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Check
for resistance values of
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a)
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Potentiometer-1
(1.2 k Ω) at pin 3 and2 and Potentiometer-2 (1.7 k Ω) at pin 5 and 1,
(
Use multimeter across the pins.)
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e.
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Mount
the APM suitably and check for resistance variation in multimeter while
pressing the APM from 0% to 100% travel.
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f.
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Check
the accelerator working function on diagnostic tester. Connect the diagnostic
tester and go in “Check Parameters”. Select accelerator pedal and check
values. As the pedal is getting pressed, the % value increases.
Potentiometer 1 resistance variation
– pins 3 and 4
Potentiometer 2 resistance variation
– pins 5 and 6
Continuity of Accelerator Pedal Module:
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APM Pin ECU
1 31
2 12
3 50
4 69
5 51
6 70
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14 Black smoke:
a.
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Check for various mechanical causes:
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a)
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Contaminated fuel used.
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b)
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Check clamps of intake hoses from
Air filter > turbo charger > intercooler > Intake manifold. Check
for damaged/punctured hoses.
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c)
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Fuel system- chocked fuel filter,
feed pump, injector dribbling, correct size and length of high-pressure line,
etc.
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d)
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Check for brake binding, wrong
exhaust brake fitment.
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e)
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Check FIP timing and calibration.
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f)
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Check for poor compression pressure.
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b.
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Check boost pressure sensor and coolant
temperature sensor.
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c.
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Check ECU Data set ID using
diagnostic tests under ‘Read ECU Data’.
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